Unfuckingbelievable

[NonConformist]

Judge Lets Mexico Have Voice in Court Case Against U.S. Immigration Law


Mexico gets its a say in one of the lawsuits challenging Arizona's immigration enforcement law.


A federal judge on Thursday granted Mexico's request to be allowed to file a legal brief supporting the challenge. That means the judge will consider the brief Mexico submitted previously.


Mexico says it wants to defend its citizens' rights and that the law would lead to racial profiling and hinder trade and tourism. It also says the law would hinder work against drug trafficking and related violence.


Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed the law on April 23 and changes to it on April 30, has lawyers defending it in court.In a statement issued last week, Brewer said she was "very disappointed" to learn of Mexico's filing and reiterated that "Arizona's immigration enforcement laws are both reasonable and constitutional."

"I believe that Arizona will ultimately prevail and that our laws will be found constitutional," Brewer added.


Brewer and other supporters of the bill say the law is intended to pressure illegal immigrants to leave the United States. They contend it is a needed response to federal inaction over what they say is a porous border and social problems caused by illegal immigration. They also argue that it has protections against racial profiling.


The law's provisions include a requirement that police enforcing another law ask people about their immigration status if there's a "reasonable suspicion" they're in the country illegally.


The law takes effect July 29 unless blocked by a court.
Until recently, Mexican law made illegal immigration a criminal offense -- anyone arrested for the violation could be fined, imprisoned for up to two years and deported. Mexican lawmakers changed that in 2008 to make illegal immigration a civil violation like it is in the United States, but their law still reads an awful lot like Arizona's.


Arizona's policy, which President Felipe Calderon derided during a recent U.S. trip as "discriminatory," states police can't randomly stop people and demand papers, and the law prohibits racial profiling.
Mexican law, however, requires law enforcement officials "to demand that foreigners prove their legal presence in the country before attending to any issues."


Amnesty International recently issued a report claiming illegal immigrants in Mexico -- typically from Central America -- face abuse, rape and kidnappings, and that Mexican police do little to stop it. When illegal immigration was a criminal offense in Mexico, officials were known to seek bribes from suspects to keep them out of jail.


But Mexico said it has a legitimate interest in defending its citizens' rights and that Arizona's law would lead to racial profiling, hinder trade and tourism, and strain the countries' work on combating drug trafficking and related violence.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...igration-law/#

[Master Chief]

Oh the hell with it, let's just extend due process to everyone on the goddamn planet already. Why the fuck even have borders or citizens anymore.

[Dag]

Queing head bang in 3...2...1...

[Dr. Madd]

Arizona, and all states who support it should secede from the Union. This gov't is not looking out for Americans, and therefore deserves neither our respect nor our loyalty.

[Master Chief]

Originally Posted by Dr. Madd

Arizona, and all states who support it should secede from the Union. This gov't is not looking out for Americans, and therefore deserves neither our respect nor our loyalty.

I expected Texas to be leading the charge in this direction, though it seems Arizona might be taking their place. In any case, the patriot in me hopes that it doesn't come to secession, but the libertarian in me accepts that it might be the only resolution.

[Dag]

and people criticized me over and over again about my support for the Confederacy and SC stepping up and seceding in 1860... many that are ignorant painted the South as doing this due to slavery...which is BS... It was about States that were getting f'ed by the federal gov't.

Now, here you have AZ in a similar position...and if history is not told correctly, it will be the same...meaning that AZ is a racist State that doesn't want Mexican's... See the similarities??

Anyhow, the key benefit that SC had, even if it was just them seceding, was they are a coastal state...AZ is landlocked... which makes it hard.

[Master Chief]

Originally Posted by Dag

and people criticized me over and over again about my support for the Confederacy and SC stepping up and seceding in 1860... many that are ignorant painted the South as doing this due to slavery...which is BS... It was about States that were getting f'ed by the federal gov't.

Now, here you have AZ in a similar position...and if history is not told correctly, it will be the same...meaning that AZ is a racist State that doesn't want Mexican's... See the similarities??

Anyhow, the key benefit that SC had, even if it was just them seceding, was they are a coastal state...AZ is landlocked... which makes it hard.

AZ has a lot of our nuclear arsenal though.

[Dag]

Originally Posted by Master Chief

AZ has a lot of our nuclear arsenal though.

but they have NO way to have imports/ exports... if they were to secede (and without the help of coastal neighboring States) they would be be starved out.

[Nightfighter89]

Originally Posted by Master Chief

AZ has a lot of our nuclear arsenal though.

Yeah but they have none of the launch codes.

[Master Chief]

Originally Posted by Nightfighter89

Yeah but they have none of the launch codes.

But they have the personnel to figure them out. I mean come on, it's the Government, how secure can it possibly be. Probably based on javascript or something.

[Nightfighter89]

Originally Posted by Master Chief

But they have the personnel to figure them out. I mean come on, it's the Government, how secure can it possibly be. Probably based on javascript or something.

I don't know. Seems to me that that would be about as secure as humanly possible. If the screwup government is going to do anything right, it would be the freakin' nuclear launch codes.

[Dr. Madd]

Originally Posted by Master Chief

AZ has a lot of our nuclear arsenal though.

All the better to prevent a gov't counter-revolution with, my man.

[NonConformist]

The launch codes are all manual keys and cards IIRC

[Nightfighter89]

Originally Posted by NonConformist

The launch codes are all manual keys and cards IIRC

Then what's in the football that the president is followed around with?

[NonConformist]

Originally Posted by Nightfighter89

Then what's in the football that the president is followed around with?

A manual card w/ appropriate codes so the silos can access their manual keys in their boxes

Though I am speculating as I have no affiliation w/ the US Government, but they are hack proof if thats what they use which is why I think it is